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Re: Freestyle Motocross Star Jeremy Lusk Dies, Is This a Sign That FMX Has Come Too Far?

Erica — Wed, 28 Dec 2011 07:09:04 -0000

I stumbled upon this article and I just have to ask ... are all FMXers complete morons? I'm not talking about skill or guts ... I'm talking about their complete inability to put a sentence together or learn to spell. If someone was to judge the intelligence of freestylers from the comments on this board, they'd have to come to the conclusion that the educational system has failed them.

Sure, there were some typos in the article ... and Mike, you should have made changes to this ... but whatever. I'm talking more about guys like Brett ... how did you not laugh at his post? Heal (heel) ... your (you're) ... breethe (breathe) ... there (their) ... payed (paid) ... dieing (dying) ... oh man, that is freakin' hysterical. Brett is attacking your post, yet it sounds like he's been doing backflips and landing on his head. I wouldn't take anything he says seriously.

Personally, after reading the comments of these knuckleheads, I'm glad the sport is evolving ... as sad as I think Jeremy Lusk's death is, if he was stupid enough to risk his life just to do a trick that hundreds of other people have done ... oh well. Marines risk their lives ... police risk their lives ... firefighters risk their lives ... but all of these have MEANING ... something a guy doing a backflip on a motorbike would have no idea about. So if they want to risk their lives for something absurd when there are real MEN with real GUTS (though I'm sure backflipping on a bike is exactly the same as running into a burning building or facing off against an enemy who wants to kill you) ... I say go right ahead ... and I especially think guys on this board should attempt as many backflips as they want ... because the important thing isn't the evolution of FMX ... it's the evolution of the human race ... and nothing would be better if some of these guys landed on their heads and helped to thin out the herd.

Re: Freestyle Motocross Star Jeremy Lusk Dies, Is This a Sign That FMX Has Come Too Far?

Ollie_lammas — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 08:42:29 -0000

I'm sure the FMX community is devastated at the loss of you following the sport...

Re: Freestyle Motocross Star Jeremy Lusk Dies, Is This a Sign That FMX Has Come Too Far?

BelgarethZ — Sun, 03 Apr 2011 17:44:39 -0000

Wrong.
So very very wrong.
The sport is evolving. Of course.
As well it should.
Take your "old school" back to Old School.
For the rest...

Ride on!

Re: Freestyle Motocross Star Jeremy Lusk Dies, Is This a Sign That FMX Has Come Too Far?

Dan — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:30:08 -0000

who the fck above used my email to write that?????????!?!?!?!?!

Re: Freestyle Motocross Star Jeremy Lusk Dies, Is This a Sign That FMX Has Come Too Far?

Bmmx_4_life — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:15:36 -0000

yeh dude been a freestyle rider my self, you made some good points man but the evolution of this sport will not change. the sport of fmx is watt it is now bro. most deffently skill should be over guts but when you think about it man you need the guts to hit the ramps and perform the tricks anyway. im always nervous when im hitten the ramps and performing but you find away to put that behind you so u can do watt you love most man!

as any sport, sports evolve and get better, harder and require more skill and guts and in most cases in extreme sport putting your life on the line.

i appreciate you concerns for the sport dude but with out the evolution of new skills tallents and tricks to the sport it wouldnt be the sport it is today.

and yeh flipping your body over 60-70 feet is scary dude but the feeling is sensational man. it has to be done to be experianced. even try it into a foam pit if you want thats how u learn.

Re: Freestyle Motocross Star Jeremy Lusk Dies, Is This a Sign That FMX Has Come Too Far?

fmxcrazy — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 08:05:39 -0000

Wel im a 14 year guy tht duz freestyle motocross and i do flips aswell, evry1 arguing about the tricks in freestyle r all shit, freestyle is a sport where you take your skills and abilities on your bike 2 tha nxt level, if riders didnt feel safe doing tha sport thn they obviously wuldnt do it. Evryone doing freestyle is just out there 2 hav fun an express there skills in tha best way thy thnk thy can. All freestyle riders know tha risks involved but its just there decesion 2 take their chances. Also, it is up 2 thm 2 decide if what thy r doing is safe and unsafe, if thy are not confident and dnt feel safe with wat thy r doing thn lyk i sed, thy wuldnt b doing it. So if you dnt or havnt dun freestyle before thn i realy dnt thnk u shuld b making judgements about tha sport. Its up 2 tha riders 2 decide wat thy wnt 2 do, NOT YOU!

Cheers

Re: Freestyle Motocross Star Jeremy Lusk Dies, Is This a Sign That FMX Has Come Too Far?

Just another yooper — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:18:52 -0000

You don't have any idea what you are talking about when it comes to FMX or Scott Murray. I personally know Scott. My younger brother has been riding with him for a long time. They learned to backflip together in Scott's foam pit years ago. Scott has been doing freestyle motocross since you were in diapers. He definitely has the skill of most other riders in FMX and deserves to showcase himself as a full fledged rider in other comps besides best trick, he just hasn't been given the right opportunity. Scott deserves respect. Respect that he does not get from most of his peers or people like you. I would bet most other riders who go out and try a double flip would have had a hard time with it also. Especially if you were thrown onto national television in front of millions of viewers expected to land one of the hardest tricks in freestyle motocross. I agree that FMX is dangerous. Riding motorcylces in general is dangerous. But, there is no reason for someone to not do it because of this. In regards to Jeremy Lusk. He went out doing what he loves. I can't imagine he would have had it any other way. Professionals deserve the right to do what tricks they can and help evolve the sport. I think your ideas about safety are absurd. Everything you speak of above would reverse the progress that's been made in this sport over the past few years. I understand everyone has an opinion, even you, and your entitled to it, but my opinion on you is you should always refuse to follow freestyle and stick to your amateur motocross racing on the weekends. You'll be safer. And if you aren't going to follow the sport I would recommend not posting about it either.

Re: Freestyle Motocross Star Jeremy Lusk Dies, Is This a Sign That FMX Has Come Too Far?

tyler harris — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 06:26:43 -0000

fuck flips i would love to do one but seriosly what happend to the big rock sollids and the huge lazy boys. extension not not quantity! fuck!!!!!!

Re: Freestyle Motocross Star Jeremy Lusk Dies, Is This a Sign That FMX Has Come Too Far?

jj — Wed, 06 May 2009 09:08:30 -0000

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Re: Freestyle Motocross Star Jeremy Lusk Dies, Is This a Sign That FMX Has Come Too Far?

Mike Martin — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:57:59 -0000

Hey Blake, I definitely respect your point of view, and I have to say that everyone who rides FMX is definitely brave and it definitely takes so serious guts to huck your bike and your body over such huge gaps. That being said, it is clear to me that certain FMX riders are much more skilled, while others are simply relying on bravery. To me, it is simply not fair that the less skilled riders are forced to ride out of their comfort zone just to compete with less skilled riders.

In addition, I do ride motocross every weekend, so I know what it feels like to be forced to do things you are not entirely comfortable with just to compete. It can be tough, and in the case of FMX, it has resulted in the deaths of some of the biggest stars of the sport.

Re: Freestyle Motocross Star Jeremy Lusk Dies, Is This a Sign That FMX Has Come Too Far?

blake lahue — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:14:07 -0000

i dont think you have room to talk about who is or isnt a fmx'er. are you out hucking ramps and preforming tricks? didnt think so..

Re: Freestyle Motocross Star Jeremy Lusk Dies, Is This a Sign That FMX Has Come Too Far?

Mike Martin — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 22:36:28 -0000

Hey Brett, I totally respect your opinion, even if I don't agree totally. I understand that if FMX returns to simple tricks like knack knacks or heel clickers, then it will loose its value, however, the same can be said for the scenario in which multiple stars of the FMX world loose their lives. If too many of these incredibly skilled riders suffer severe injuries or death, the sport will suffer even greater than if something is done to make it safer. In addition, I truthfully do not want the sport to return to simple tricks like knack knacks, but rather tricks which demonstrate skill rather than just guts. Like I've set, i would love to see more natural hits and more of the new age obstacles which take skill to conquer yet will not result in death if failed. Maybe this is actually the wrong approach, and it would be more sensible to increase the level of safety gear on the FMX stars. Truthfully, I am unsure as to what exactly I believe needs to be done, yet I know something must be done.

Thanks again for your comment and your opinion!

Re: Freestyle Motocross Star Jeremy Lusk Dies, Is This a Sign That FMX Has Come Too Far?

Brett — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:36:21 -0000

Not really feeling anything you say! You can't judge pro talent by who does the best knack knack or heal clicker...for ameteur level riders yes, but when you are dealing with pro's that have been doing this the majority of thier lives... you have to have the ability to show off what your about... with the exception of only a coulpe of people, these guys live, breethe bleed and die Freestyle Motocross... this is what they train for every day of there lives. that is there job, and they know the risk involved, thats why they get payed... dieing is no suprise, its a shock and its a horrible thing but thats what you have to expect! I fill for Lusk and his family and would not wish that on anyone!

R.I.P. Lusk...my prayers go out to you and your family, and the rest of the Metal Mulisha!!!

Re: Freestyle Motocross Star Jeremy Lusk Dies, Is This a Sign That FMX Has Come Too Far?

Mike Martin — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:38:56 -0000

Hey Hans, thanks for the comment, and let me start off by saying that I agree with your point of view, and that I totally agree that taking the skill out of FMX would devalue the sport. However, what I am calling for is not for limitations on the skill the riders can exhibit, but more of a change in the way the courses are designed so that skilled riders can flourish. Whether dirt hits or just new and technical obstacles, something must be done to bring this sport back to a point where skill reigns supreme.

Re: Freestyle Motocross Star Jeremy Lusk Dies, Is This a Sign That FMX Has Come Too Far?

Hans — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 04:26:43 -0000

What up man, I feel that you have argued your point pretty good. However, the thought of making this sport safer is very unlikely. I feel that a lot this sport is about innovation and skill. These guys put their lives on the line for a reason. If the are limited to what they can and can't do it will kill the sport and not be as exciting as it was. Freestyle Motocross evolved from pushing the limits and seeing how far someone could go. Take that idea out of the sport and it will be an imitation of motocross with ramps and more tricks. Yes, the risk factor is getting high but these professional riders would not be using foam pits to try or perfect these new tricks. I guess we will see what the future has in store for us.

My heart goes out to Jeremy Lusk and his family and wish it could have turned out for the better instead of the worse.

Re: Freestyle Motocross Star Jeremy Lusk Dies, Is This a Sign That FMX Has Come Too Far?

Mike Martin — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:15:12 -0000

Hey Tylor, thank you for your comment, I appreciate you reading my work! I've never been seriously injured on my motocross bike, but it is only a matter of time. I hope all of your injuries were never too serious, and I'm sure that Jeremy's friends and family would be extremely happy to hear your sympathy, I'm sure they need it right now.

Re: Freestyle Motocross Star Jeremy Lusk Dies, Is This a Sign That FMX Has Come Too Far?

Mike Martin — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:22:13 -0000

The truth is that many (almost all) of the FMX riders could not compete in professional motocross or supercross. However, the thing is that motocross and supercross are not their sports. They have trained and practiced their whole lives to be good at freestyle motocross which is, essentially, a whole other sport when compared to motocross and supercross. THe stars of FMX are very skilled at their discipline and thus it is unfair to compare them to supercross and motocross when they are, essentially, different motocross disciplines and almost as different from each other as supercross and Moto GP. Thanks for the comment and the question, I appreciate it!

Re: Freestyle Motocross Star Jeremy Lusk Dies, Is This a Sign That FMX Has Come Too Far?

Mike Martin — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:58:52 -0000

Hey Mike, Thanks for the great comment I appreciate it! I totally agree with almost everything you have said. The entire sport has gotten to the point of insane risks. The Leatt brace (http://is.gd/kTTn) is a good solution for right now, but it is not "scalable" to the future. More protective gear is not the answer. More sensible tracks and more limits on what is and isn't safe is what's needed to return the sport to a safer level where riders feel safe riding to their abilities rather than being forced to ride at a sub par level in order to return home at night.

Re: Freestyle Motocross Star Jeremy Lusk Dies, Is This a Sign That FMX Has Come Too Far?

tylor — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:24:00 -0000

hey im tylor and from usa michigan and im 13 and ive hurt myself many times but not that bad im sorry for the parents and friends loss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Freestyle Motocross Star Jeremy Lusk Dies, Is This a Sign That FMX Has Come Too Far?

Wayno — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 23:43:50 -0000

While FMX is cool to watch, (I have to admit to watching it), I wonder how many of these guys could actually compete? The true mettle of a motocrosser, imho, is on the track.

Wayno

Re: Freestyle Motocross Star Jeremy Lusk Dies, Is This a Sign That FMX Has Come Too Far?

Mike Shelby — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 23:05:07 -0000

Great post, and I think it's about time that we make more rules for this extremely dangerous sport. For this sport to be safe I think more rules need to be in place and all "New" tricks must be discusses or something so it's not such a push to everyone else to run out and try to do that trick. Something should be implemented and fast. This sport has pushed past the envelope and I think for the most part they have been very lucky.

I also think that the same can be said for MX/SX as well. Bigger more technical jumps, faster outdoor tracks have created more injuries in our sport as well. I think it's time to dial back a little and make to sport of MX/SX/FMX safer. When riders like Hepler can't seem to stay healthy and as the series goes on we have less of the top racers at events due to injury I think that hurts the sport.

I have noticed that amateur tracks are getting tougher also.